A question about (American) Football

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Can I ask what the point of having a separate position for both the kicker and punter is? Anyone who plays in those positions seems to be considered with disdain and neither by itself seems to be particularly difficult so why not just merge the positions? In the NFL this would also have the effect of freeing up salary cap space.
 
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Most kickers can punt and vice versa. However punting actually does require some skill, punting to a certain place or punting only a certain amount of yards. Also you like your kickers to only practice kicking, as sometimes they make the difference in a game, so you don't want them wasting time practicing punting. Someone else will probably have more to say, but I hope that helps alittle.
 

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FAJA said:
Can I ask what the point of having a separate position for both the kicker and punter is? Anyone who plays in those positions seems to be considered with disdain and neither by itself seems to be particularly difficult so why not just merge the positions? In the NFL this would also have the effect of freeing up salary cap space.
You try kicking a 55-yard field goal while 11 opposing players are running at you, and get back to me.
 
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BurritoClock said:
Most kickers can punt and vice versa. However punting actually does require some skill, punting to a certain place or punting only a certain amount of yards. Also you like your kickers to only practice kicking, as sometimes they make the difference in a game, so you don't want them wasting time practicing punting. Someone else will probably have more to say, but I hope that helps alittle.
he just about said it...

DeVaSTaTioN said:
You try kicking a 55-yard field goal while 11 opposing players are running at you, and get back to me.
quoted for truth... also, try doing it with wind blowing or on an angle.


you probably couldnt kick a 20 yard field goal.

as far as punters go, they put backspin on the ball, kick in a certain spot and/or a certain distance.

both postitions are needed
 

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well the rich ass owners don't mind taking just a bit more out of their wallet if it may get them another win or two.

Kickers and punters really don't get paid all that much anway unless they're really good.
 
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Well, I have to say I didn't expect so many (almost) angry responses.

For the difficulty of the place kicks, the answer is provided in the link given by Jimothy51

Skip Bayless said:
It did my heart good two Sundays ago when 245-pound Philadelphia linebacker Mark Simoneau stood in for an injured David Akers and soccer-styled a perfect hook through the uprights on an extra point.
Does anyone seriously think that that guy spent huge amounts of time practising kicking?

DeVaSTaTioN said:
You try kicking a 55-yard field goal while 11 opposing players are running at you, and get back to me.
I don't pretend that I could kick a 55 yard field goal. However, I don't get paid to practise, those don't seem to be attempted particularly often anyway even by kickers like Akers or Vinatieri (who both have career long 57 yards apparently), I've never even tried to place kick a ball of that type in that way before and I never claimed I could. I was referring to one of the kicking jobs being able to be done by the other (e.g Punter punting & kicking or the kicker doing both). Although to be honest when I typed that I didn't actually think of that situation, for some reason I was only thinking of the extra point attempts.

jmbarlow2001 said:
as far as punters go, they put backspin on the ball, kick in a certain spot and/or a certain distance.

both postitions are needed.
I still think that one person could manage to do both and there hasn't really been anything to convince me otherwise seeing as some of you have an obsession with how well I'd do instead of actually answering my question.
 

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To tell you the truth the best kickers are foreign soccer players and the best punters are rugby players. They're both hard in their own right, if you're a punter you're responsible for any touchdown the team scores off a punt return. If you're a kicker, you're often responsible for making the game winning kicks. Both positions aren't handsomely payed, so there's no need to intertwine the positions.
 

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FAJA said:
Well, I have to say I didn't expect so many (almost) angry responses.

I don't pretend that I could kick a 55 yard field goal. However, I don't get paid to practise, those don't seem to be attempted particularly often anyway even by kickers like Akers or Vinatieri (who both have career long 57 yards apparently), I've never even tried to place kick a ball of that type in that way before and I never claimed I could. I was referring to one of the kicking jobs being able to be done by the other (e.g Punter punting & kicking or the kicker doing both). Although to be honest when I typed that I didn't actually think of that situation, for some reason I was only thinking of the extra point attempts.
Sorry if I came off angry.

I wasn't, I was just saying that it's harder than it looks, and that goes for any sport.

I'd hate to be a rugby player. No pads? Are you joking? I can hold my own against most people in this world and probably win, but a whole team coming at me? Forget it.
 
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DeVaSTaTioN said:
Sorry if I came off angry.

I wasn't, I was just saying that it's harder than it looks, and that goes for any sport.

I'd hate to be a rugby player. No pads? Are you joking? I can hold my own against most people in this world and probably win, but a whole team coming at me? Forget it.
It's alright, I guess i'm just more ignorant of the sport than I thought I was. It comes from me being used to rugby where just about every player can punt to a reasonable degree and the kicker will do everything else as well.

DeVaSTaTioN said:
I'd hate to be a rugby player. No pads? Are you joking? I can hold my own against most people in this world and probably win, but a whole team coming at me? Forget it.
The only really painful part of Rugby is in the rucks (the pilup after someone gets tackled) and to be quite honest In many ways I'd rather be a the bottom of a ruck than on the receiving end of some of the hits that are delivered in American football, pads or no.