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As Canadian As Roquefort and Champagne!

Discussion in 'World News & Events' started by jakesnake, Dec 8, 2006.

  1. jakesnake

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    This will likely be mostly of interest to Canadian members, here; however: if this clown Dion ever becomes our Prime Minister, my American friends, you should be concerned.

    On with the show, then.

    If you care to read the rest, it's at aggregator.ca
     
  2. Chewy

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    lol... ah if I could only take this seriously... First off I really don't see anything a current minority party leader can do currently other agitate Harper. Secondly if a major explosion of radical concepts were to ever detonate in Ottawa the US would not even feel the breeze.
     
  3. yb-yellow

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    I will kill myself if Dion becomes the PM.

    The Americans will fall of their chairs laughing at us again like Jean Chretian.

    The man studders in his English.

    He CANNOT lead or represent Canada at home or on the world stage.

    Thats why this spring we'll have another minority Conservative government unless the Liberals make a big mistake then Majority Conservative.
     
  4. Nocturnal

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    My thoughts exactly. At very worst case (let's say a Stalinist communist revolution) our foreign policy would change, our internal politics would not skip a beat.

    No, we are actually pretty used to those things in our national leadership. *cough *cough
     
  5. Cancon

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    Save this in a file somewhere...Liberal majority next election!

    Why? Because Ontario will give it to them and like all other elections in the past, the way Ontario goes...so goes the country.
     
  6. Chewy

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    A 120 megaton explosion of ideals could happen in the House of Commons and in the US senate someone would ask if the guy next to him if he farted.

    can we get that in writing?
     
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    I can't tell if you're saying this like its a bad thing. Rather Ontario decide our future then those knuckle dragging westerners.


    And no... I'm not French. Alex Delarge is a character... a CHARACTER! From one of my all time favourites "A Clockwork Orange"
     
  8. yb-yellow

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    That made me giggle Chewy!

    And FYI people! Ontario does NOT decide the elections:

    308 seats in Canada:

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/process/info/ParlSeats.asp?Language=E&param=H&Hist=N

    BC+AB+SK+MB+YK+NWT+NVT+NFL+NS+NB+PEI = 127 seats

    Ontario + Quebec = 181 seats.

    So yes, FYI, we have power in this nation too:

    Also AB and BC are getting more seats as BC+AB=Quebec in population, so:

    Thats 11 more seats coming to those provinces.

    So the entire nation, excluding Quebec and Ontario (once BC+AB get their seats re-alligned) will be: 138 seats.

    319 divided by 138 equals approx = 43% of this nation is not in Quebec or Ontario.

    We have the POWA to change things!
     
  9. alex_de_large

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    Yes, but 43% does not vote for the Conservative party. In fact, since B.C, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba elect large numbers of both NDP and Liberals there isn't much hope for a western change unless you rely solely on Alberta. Honestly, I don't know why westerners always clump B.C in with them when they talk about separation and such issues... on REPEATED occasions they have voted in an NDP government :p.

    The maritime provinces on the other hand, along with ontario vote for the liberals with a sizable majority. Quebec will also probably jump on board now seeing as there is a french man as leader.

    So WHY don't the Conservatives get in?

    Canadians are not uptight people who still have the stick stuck up my ass mentality on moral issues as people did in the 1950's.

    we're coooool, laidback. we don't care if gays marry because we have the live and let live philosophy. pot decriminalization? who are we to tell people how to live their life?

    If you read articles from back in the day stemming from the women's right to vote issue you will again notice that it was the CONSERVATIVES who were mostly opposing the issue trying to come up with all sorts of justifications against it... just like they do now. (on the basis of traditions, ect...) But then lo and behold, the law passes and twenty years down the road virtually NO ONE has and issue with it. Canadians voted for gay marriage and once again people are seeing that the earth didn't spin out of orbit. THAT IS WHY THE WEST WILL NEVER WIN. LIBERALS ARE RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES OF MORALITY. CONSERVATIVES TRY TOO HARD TO CONTROL PEOPLE.

    If the Conservative Party adopts liberal stances on moral issues, THEN people will vote for them because Conservatives generally have it right when it comes to economics.

    Guess what I'm trying to say then is... LIBERTARIANS RULE!
     
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  10. Cancon

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    ^^What he said^^

    Ontarians love to vote Liberal and the Quebecois are not offended by a French Prime Minister. Add to that, the stinky part of the party is gone and there's a renewed hope for change.

    Aside from you, yb-yellow, most Canadians don't like our leaders to be led around by the nose by our friends south of the border. Add to that the body bags coming home from Afghanistan, the increased spending to the Canadian "war machine", the debate about same sex marriages that, thank God, seems to be finally put to bed and everytime somebody critiques the Conservatives about anything their first response is.."but the Liberals...".

    Suck it up! The Liberals have created an economy that has outpaced all of the G-7 nations and handed to the Conservatives a surplus budget that Harper has just about eaten through, already!

    Change is coming...and that right quick.

    P.S. I am a French Canadian...born and raised in Ontario and have lived long enough to see the writing on the wall for Harpers Conservatives.
     
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  11. yb-yellow

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    O and what were those 121 ridings thinking when they put in Harper?

    Hmm... maybe not all of Canada is lefy laid-back Liberatarians.

    Get real, were don't all have the hippy equality, Liberal, lefty views.

    Besides Canada STILL is not ready to forgive the Liberals.

    The Conservative HAVE done progress:

    GST Cut
    Daycare payments
    Helping the people of Afghanistan.

    And don't give me the enviorment BS. YOu think the Liberals and Dion did a good job on Kyoto? Please... At least Conservatives are smart enough to know they can't reach those goals and have to set their sights to reasonable, achievable goals.

    The Liberals sign a Kyoto accord and don't follow through. The Conservatives access the situation, realize we can't get to those goals. Re-evaluate, with new achievable goals in the Clean Air Act.

    Quite honestly when the Liberals were in power, besides these Pro-Bono "Charter of rights and freedoms" stuff what did they accomplish... not much.

    The conservatives have made promises and followed through.

    To me and MANY Canadians they are trustable and that will give them another minority government.

    I am sick of minority governments though, we need things to get done, I wish Canada was United in one direction. Canada is split by Liberal and Conservative.

    O and NDP is a joke. They need to swipe Layton out of their if they ever EVER want people to consider them an "alternative"
     
  12. (_8(I)

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    What about Harper's promise to get our 5 billion dollars back from the US for the softwood lumber? He went after the Liberals for not fighting the US hard enough on the issue, so far ive seen nothing from him. And also his other pre-election promise about cutting federal gas tax. Again, no action.
    Harper and the conservatives, have done very little governing at all. They're waiting until they win a majority government. They seem too afraid to do any major actions to upset people so they can win that majority.
    I also like the comment about how Dion can't represent Canada on the world stage. Yes, because Harper is doing a wonderful job at that, especially with his recent trip to China.
     

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