EU Wants Shared Control of Internet

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http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/30/D8CUKA481.html

EU Wants Shared Control of Internet
Sep 30 10:00 AM US/Eastern


By AOIFE WHITE
AP Business Writer


BRUSSELS, Belgium


The European Union insisted Friday that governments and the private sector must share the responsibility of overseeing the Internet, setting the stage for a showdown with the United States on the future of Internet governance.

A senior U.S. official reiterated Thursday that the country wants to remain the Internet's ultimate authority, rejecting calls in a United Nations meeting in Geneva for a U.N. body to take over.
As far as I'm concerned, the Internet is doing just fine under U.S control, no need to bring in dumbass foreigners to screw everything up. The EU cant even agree on a constitution, you know they're going to argue over every little change to the internet. With the US in control, we dont need to take it to the U.N and have 13 resolutions spanning 15 years to get things done.

Besides, we created it, so its ours.
 
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Until the EU has a Constitution or some form of government document officially in place detailing how they're going to do things, it is dangerous to place this responsibility in their hands.

What if they ratify a Bill that goes against a fundamental US amendment?

As far as I see it, each country has the ability to establish its own controls over what is viewed online within their borders.

Maddox has been banned in Qatar and Iran. Seems like other nations have enough authority on the internet as it is.
 

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TFS said:
Until the EU has a Constitution or some form of government document officially in place detailing how they're going to do things, it is dangerous to place this responsibility in their hands.
Very good point.

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Maddox has been banned in Qatar and Iran. Seems like other nations have enough authority on the internet as it is.
Yeah, I was curious about this too. Exactly how much more power does a country need over the internet? From what I can tell, any overiding power the US has on the internet really isn't that grand on the world stage considering how countries like China can slash it up to suit their purpose.

And as far as the countries that are bitching about the west using up all the addresses... well tough shit. Make your own internet.
 

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the problem is most host servers are in america, because of the connection price and bandwidth.

America controls the internet even if they were to give up i-cann.

and as for the idiology of we invented it we should control it, thats Bullshit! lots of countries invented alot of things which is used by other countries but they don't have the overall control of. Sure America can control its own internet, but why should it control other's internet and have the ability to shut down the other's internet, it can them misuse its powers, instead of remaining neutral. I am aware that america did shut down some african countries internet a few years ago.
 

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Not to mention electricity, telephones, and top quality porn!
Actually, I think the Swedes have some of the better porn.

But we did make TV and radio.
 

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I just realized, we made computers too.

Let the EU control the internet, we'll just take control of all their computers via the internet. Fair trade...
 

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I say you rename the thread to "Ignorant fucks who know nothing about the EU or what the EU constitution is"
 

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I don't know much about internet control but I do think each country should have control of its own internet, which as someone pointed out, they do.

Let the UN sort out issues which directly affect other nations so that no, one country can control the other's affairs. This setup might hamper progress, but again I don't know what issues what issues there could be.

Having invented it doesn't make a difference.

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We gave you planes, trains, and automobiles. Isn't that good enough?
We gave you a country.
 

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Oh and a quick lesson for all you who don't know the difference between England, Britain and the United Kingdom:

England is a country. Wales is a country. Scotland is a country. They make up Britain, the landmass.

England, Wales, Scotland and NORTHERN Ireland make up the United Kingdom.

The Rest of Ireland is referred to as the Republic of Ireland.

Go forth and remember this important lesson.
 

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Oh and a quick lesson for all you who don't know the difference between England, Britain and the United Kingdom:

England is a country. Wales is a country. Scotland is a country. They make up Britain, the landmass.

England, Wales, Scotland and NORTHERN Ireland make up the United Kingdom.

The Rest of Ireland is referred to as the Republic of Ireland.

Go forth and remember this important lesson.
As far as we're concerned, Britain, Wales, Scotland, UK, and England mean pretty much the same damn thing. We say one of those, we know what we're talking about.

Ireland is just Ireland. It's understood that N. Ireland isn't involved.

And also, we're not just Americans. We're US Citizens. Next time you try to insult us, take care to not insult Mexicans too, even though they're just as guilty of that mistake.
 

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TFS said:
As far as we're concerned, Britain, Wales, Scotland, UK, and England mean pretty much the same damn thing. We say one of those, we know what we're talking about.

Ireland is just Ireland. It's understood that N. Ireland isn't involved.

And also, we're not just Americans. We're US Citizens. Next time you try to insult us, take care to not insult Mexicans too, even though they're just as guilty of that mistake.
You were pretty damn quick to take offence. I didn't say Americans did I? I said to "ALL of you".

Interesting to see how you assume people are out to hate America. I don't hate America. It's this self-flattery that I can't stand.
 

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I think shared control is a decent idea at this point. I think it is kind of scary to have such an huge, important facet of human life to be controlled by one nation. What is even scarier is that some people in this country want the internet to be censored and controlled. I just think that leaving one country up to this task is asking for trouble.
 
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There are practical problems for businesses with having more than one central DNS authority on the internet. For example, if you click on "microsoft.com", you want that to be the webpage of the same company, regardless of where you are in the world. The language may be different, according to your IP address, but that's set by the company. If you have multiple DNS authorities, you create two seperate internets. Microsoft.com (or whatever webpage) could be a porn site elsewhere in the world. Regardless of if I am the CEO of an -American- or -European- business, DNS has to be centralized for the good of capitalism.
 

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*Finally comments on this subject*

It's painfully obvious why people in the US would hate this. I understand you fully.

After all, if a company had their own original product and other companies wanted the designs for that product they'd be pissed.

Well, that's my analogy anyway.