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Discussion in 'World News & Events' started by rand0m, Dec 11, 2006.
Link This is sick and a fucking disgrace to history and humanity.
What a shame, they just set themselves to look like fools... that's reason enough to not let them have nuclear technology, they'd just fool with it and end up killing themselves with it...
denier 1:Hey where did 3 million go? denier 2:There werent that many. denier 1h okay. denier 1o who'se house was this?
Who's "they"? Holocaust denial isn't an exclusively Iranian phenomenon, as the guest list indicates. When I used to frequent gun shows, it was a very popular topic among the radical right wing/anti-government militia types. I am not a Holocaust denier myself, but I find the fact that you can be locked up in Germany or France for denying it to be troubling. Being an idiot isn't a crime, and if it were there'd be plenty of people who should be locked up before some foolish revisionists.
yeah. Germany really want to downplay the Nazi history. Not sure why France is doing this though. Holocaust denial is stupid.
The Iranian government (or part of it) for sponsoring the conference. Hey, I agree with that. Denying historical events or science shouldn't be a punishable crime and I agree it should be changed. Although, like Spike Lee pointed out, in Germany is punishable because they don't want anyone thinking that... so, it's not that simple when it comes to that country...
I dont agree with it being illegal to say that, but I understand why.
Wow, you and I agree on something. I was going to say the same thing. In all honesty, it's probably illegal as a massive PR campaign. Think about it, Germany's official stance is that it couldn't be more ashamed of that part in it's history, and it doesn't tolerate anything that could make it appear as if the nation is A) Heading back in that direction and B) tolerable of those who would like it to go back in that direction so they over react. Again, it's a scary thought that you could be imprisoned for speech, an action of which nations like that tend to be critical, but on the other hand they want to show the world they are reformed, modern nations worthy of our trust and more importantly our tourism dollar.
Where do I get tickets? Does El-Al have Iran flights?
Believer: So uh.....what about those ovens with the dead bodies we have photos of? Denier: It was a photochop! LOL!!!! Seriously, whoever thinks this shit is a disgrace. But wait, it's entirely plausible that they convinced the Jews (and others being persecuted) in a dozen countries to lie about it, and to make up stories about it. Since that would definitely be worth their time.....
The holocaust deinal laws are probably going to fade away after all the survivors pass away, which may be a few more decades. But sadly, that will mean there will be no more eyewitnesses, which will mean even more idiots like Omletinajob and David Duke.
Holocaust denial is stupid, but the Jewish Holocaust isn't the only Holocaust in denial. Jews should stop denying their part in the Ukrainian Holocaust in which 7 million Ukrainians died. Of the five men most responsible for the Ukrainian Holocaust Stalin/Yagoda/Molotov/Kaganovich/Beria three out of the five were Jews. Genrikh Yagoda head of the dreaded NKVD Stalins Secret police disproportionately recruited Jews into the NKVD which carried out the starvation of 7 million Ukrainians between 1932-1933. But nobody knows about this Holocaust, strange.
It's very out of character for me, but just think: one bomb and it's all solved!
Nah....they'll blame the jews. And by them, I mean Mel Gibson.
One more reason for me to say: Islam is fucking stupid.
I think the best response should a meeting of Iranian deniers.. maybe in say Texas they could meet on the premise of denning that Iraq exists. Wow if we can do this more often we solve so many of the worlds issues.
If the Jewish Holocaust can stand up to scrutiny, and can be proven valid against contradicting evidence in an official trial, or investigation, etc, then Holocaust Denial can be put to rest and subsequently invalidated. Until then, I don't see anything wrong with honestly questioning the 'facts', nor do I have a problem with an Official Holocaust Denier Conference being held among all places, in Iran.
You cant argue against fact though ... if a ball is blue, you cant look at it and say its dog ... its a fucking blue ball not a fucking dog.
I'm pretty sure 9-11 million missing people say otherwise. Not to mention the countless photos and first hand experiences that prove that it happened. I'd like to see some solid evidence that it didn't happen, because there's more than enough evidence that it did.
I was amused to see Orthodox Jews attending this conference as it is the tendency of most people to assume it was just a gathering for crazy ass Muslims who are teh badnezz and are anti-Semitic. It is not just denial of the holocaust this conference was to deal with, but the use of "holocaust guilt" felt in the West as used by the Jews to gain a state post WW2, something a number of Jews are unhappy about as they feel it detracts from their existence as the elected people.