Muslim Employer Hands out Torture Instead of Paychecks

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Sialkot (AsiaNews) – The All Pakistan Minorities Alliance (APMA) has managed to secure the release of two Christian women who were kidnapped and tortured for three months by a Muslim couple of Sialkot who wanted to convert them to Islam. The APMA director, Shabhaz Batti, told AsiaNews about the women and called on the government to “punish those guilty of this atrocious incident as severely as possible.”

Bhatti told how Nasreen Pervez, 40, and her daughter, Razia, 13, “went to the home of Muhammad Ikram, a Muslim of Sialkot, after the death of Nasreen’s husband, Pervaiz, in September.” Pervaiz “ran a poultry breeding farm in Punjab, but his business was struck by bird flu and he got ill and died. After his death, mother and daughter started to work as servants in the residence of Muhammad, their neighbour.”

However, after they had been working there for one month, Muhammad “refused to pay their salary and together with his wife, kidnapped the two women. They tore the crosses from their necks and forbade them to pray. They demanded that the women change their faith and convert to Islam and when they refused, they tortured them.”

At night, “they were chained to prevent them from escaping. Razia’s right foot was injured with the shards of a broken bottle and both had burns on their bodies. One day, Muhammad threatened to kill their relatives if they continued to be hard headed and to refuse to change religion or if they tried to escape.”

He even brought a bottle of acid and a syringe: “You will die with this in your body”. Nasreen responded: “You may kill us but we will not convert.”

After three months, Nasreen’s eldest daughter, Sheeba, went to visit her mother and little sister but Muhammad and his wife chased her away and threatened her: “Don’t come back unless you want to see them dead.” Worried, Sheeba turned to the village elders who contacted APMA.

The association “immediately went to the Lahore High Court and denounced what was going on. The judge ordered the intervention of a court bailiff who, together with our team, freed the two women.”

Bhatti said: “The growing victimization of Christians and minorities in general is alarming. We try to help the families of victims and at the same time, to find legal and practical channels to help those submitted to such violence, but the government must intervene forcefully to stop them.”

He said Christians around the world “can help us with prayer: ask the Lord for protection and justice for those who suffer for their faith.”
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What an effective way to "show them the light"! Chain them up and torture them!

Very good to hear they're free.
 

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In general Muslims are supposed to be tolerant towards Jews and Christians considering they believe they follow the true religion, but with only part of the message. :/
 
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In general Muslims are supposed to be tolerant towards Jews and Christians considering they believe they follow the true religion, but with only part of the message. :/
In practice Muslims tend to do all kinds of horrible things to people who don't fullly submit to Islam. That's what Islam means by the way: 'Submission'.

Do I have to draw you a picture?
 
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In practice Muslims tend to do all kinds of horrible things to people who don't fullly submit to Islam. That's what Islam means by the way: 'Submission'.

Do I have to draw you a picture?
christianity has killed 100's of millions throughout the centuries and is the most violent religion in history, those millions were killed in the name of "God" and "jesus" and the bible, the bible contains, terrible, horrible and downright disturbing "morals". these are justa few of them. such as, kill your neighbor, kill all gays, kill rape victims, keep child sex slaves, enslave your enemy, kill those who worship other gods.

your bible is EVIL, AND THE BIBLE SANCTIONS IT! christians kill in name of the bible all the time, lord's resistance army, army of god, IRA, tons of them, you just pick and choose, again eieio you are a joke, and completely laughable, since you have no morals, ann coulter lover, you agree with her on her disgusting 9/11 quote.

Genesis

17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Exodus

11:7 But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18

"He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20

23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

23:27 I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.

31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

Leviticus

20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

20:17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

20:18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
 
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Strike-Anywhere has no real rebuttal to use against us who debate against radical Islam, so he must resort to the default "Christians killed more people...thousands of years ago..." argument.
 
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christianity has killed 100's of millions throughout the centuries and is the most violent religion in history, those millions were killed in the name of "God" and "jesus" and the bible, the bible contains, terrible, horrible and downright disturbing "morals". these are justa few of them. such as, kill your neighbor, kill all gays, kill rape victims, keep child sex slaves, enslave your enemy, kill those who worship other gods.

your bible is EVIL, AND THE BIBLE SANCTIONS IT! christians kill in name of the bible all the time, lord's resistance army, army of god, IRA, tons of them, you just pick and choose, again eieio you are a joke, and completely laughable, since you have no morals, ann coulter lover, you agree with her on her disgusting 9/11 quote.

Genesis

17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Exodus

11:7 But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18

"He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20

23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

23:27 I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.

31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

Leviticus

20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

20:17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

20:18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
Thank and watch the bigots like gotherick and heather ( ann coulter) dismiss and watch their double standards
 
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christianity has killed 100's of millions throughout the centuries and is the most violent religion in history, those millions were killed in the name of "God" and "jesus" and the bible, the bible contains, terrible, horrible and downright disturbing "morals". these are justa few of them. such as, kill your neighbor, kill all gays, kill rape victims, keep child sex slaves, enslave your enemy, kill those who worship other gods.

your bible is EVIL, AND THE BIBLE SANCTIONS IT! christians kill in name of the bible all the time, lord's resistance army, army of god, IRA, tons of them, you just pick and choose, again eieio you are a joke, and completely laughable, since you have no morals, ann coulter lover, you agree with her on her disgusting 9/11 quote.

Genesis

17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Exodus

11:7 But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18

"He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20

23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

23:27 I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.

31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

Leviticus

20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

20:17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

20:18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
I was raised in a Christian community but I'm an atheist so Bible quotes have little meaning for me.

My only problem with Muslims is that they're still in the kill the infidels mode. If they would give the rest of the world's religions and cultures some repect maybe we'd learn to live with them.
 

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What kind of argument are the crusades or inqusition? As I know it the moslems were equally bloodthirsty in their conquest.

I'm pretty much concerned about who is doing the blood letting TODAY. Not who was doing it 500 or a 1000 years ago.

I'm pretty sure the two women who were tortured weren't thinking or worrying about the crusades. Freaking pathetic.:rollseyes :rollseyes
 
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Not what kind of argument the crusades or inqusition are. As I know it the moslems were equally bloodthirsty in their conquest.

I'm pretty much concerned about who is doing the blood letting TODAY. Not who was doing it 500 or a 1000 years ago.
learn how to spell its not moslems its muslims and do your homework buddy the first of enemies Islam (persians, Turks, Arabs) converted peacefully after they discoverd the true meaning. Unlike the soldiers of jesus who went by join us or die.
 

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Thank and watch the bigots like gotherick and heather ( ann coulter) dismiss and watch their double standards
So posting news stories makes me a bigot? How would I manage to avoid this label? By completely ignoring incidents like this?

Anyway, you people are still trying to pull the "Christians did bad things too" approach! How does the fact that Christians have committed atrocities too make this story any less of an issue!?. Why should we ignore the barbaric acts of Islamic extremists because "The Christians did to too"!? Could it ever occur to you that they both are inherently violent religions, and they both need to be exposed!?

What a tool.
 
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I was raised in a Christian community but I'm an atheist so Bible quotes have little meaning for me.

My only problem with Muslims is that they're still in the kill the infidels mode. If they would give the rest of the world's religions and cultures some repect maybe we'd learn to live with them.
we do, too bad politics fucks it all, terrorism is extremely small, it's all politics, iraq's civil war is politics, iran and american relations are politics, seeing as how we assassinated their democratically elected leader.

almost everything is POLITICS, no one understands that, they simply assume anybody muslim is a terrorist, you don't see muslims and jews going apeshit over evolution, muslims in america aren't committing terrorist attacks, american christians have killed more in their religion than muslim americans.

some people pick and choose.

look into african christian death squads and terrorist groups, there are plenty of them. what about the famous IRA.
 

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learn how to spell its not moslems its muslims and do your homework buddy the first of enemies Islam (persians, Turks, Arabs) converted peacefully after they discoverd the true meaning. Unlike the soldiers of jesus who went by join us or die.
Back at you. :rollseyes Ironic isn't it?

Moslem is just another word for Muslim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim
 
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learn how to spell its not moslems its muslims and do your homework buddy the first of enemies Islam (persians, Turks, Arabs) converted peacefully after they discoverd the true meaning. Unlike the soldiers of jesus who went by join us or die.
Hey there, genius. Before you go correcting someone, it's always a good idea to check the facts first.

Finding out the word can be spelled different ways, after showing your superior intellect, is a beautiful thing, isn't it?

EDIT: Doh...Bugfatty beat me to it.
 
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Back at you. :rollseyes Ironic isn't it?

Moslem is just another word for Muslim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim
A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم, Persian and Urdu: مسلمان, Turkish: Müslüman, Albanian: Mysliman, Bosnian: Musliman) is an adherent of Islam. The feminine form of Muslim is Muslimah (Ar: مسلمه). Literally, the word means "one who submits (to God)" [Ar. muslim, pl. muslimin – salma, to submit (to God)]

did you just edit the wikipidia page and posted the link as fast as you can and was hopeing it was still there when i checked it.


Until the late 1980s, the term Moslem was commonly used. Muslims do not recommend this spelling because it is often pronounced "mawzlem" /mɒzlɛm/ which sounds somewhat similar to an Arabic word for "oppressed" (Za'lem in Arabic).[citation needed] The word is pronounced /muslem/ in Arabic, but often /mʊślɪm/ in English. The word is now most commonly written "Muslim".

nice try :rollseyes
 
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A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم, Persian and Urdu: مسلمان, Turkish: Müslüman, Albanian: Mysliman, Bosnian: Musliman) is an adherent of Islam. The feminine form of Muslim is Muslimah (Ar: مسلمه). Literally, the word means "one who submits (to God)" [Ar. muslim, pl. muslimin – salma, to submit (to God)]

did you just edit the wikipidia page and posted the link as fast as you can and was hopeing it was still there when i checked it.


Until the late 1980s, the term Moslem was commonly used. Muslims do not recommend this spelling because it is often pronounced "mawzlem" /mɒzlɛm/ which sounds somewhat similar to an Arabic word for "oppressed" (Za'lem in Arabic).[citation needed] The word is pronounced /muslem/ in Arabic, but often /mʊślɪm/ in English. The word is now most commonly written "Muslim".

nice try :rollseyes
heather read that iits muslim not MOSLEM
 

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A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم, Persian and Urdu: مسلمان, Turkish: Müslüman, Albanian: Mysliman, Bosnian: Musliman) is an adherent of Islam. The feminine form of Muslim is Muslimah (Ar: مسلمه). Literally, the word means "one who submits (to God)" [Ar. muslim, pl. muslimin – salma, to submit (to God)]

did you just edit the wikipidia page and posted the link as fast as you can and was hopeing it was still there when i checked it.


Until the late 1980s, the term Moslem was commonly used. Muslims do not recommend this spelling because it is often pronounced "mawzlem" /mɒzlɛm/ which sounds somewhat similar to an Arabic word for "oppressed" (Za'lem in Arabic).[citation needed] The word is pronounced /muslem/ in Arabic, but often /mʊślɪm/ in English. The word is now most commonly written "Muslim".

nice try :rollseyes
Huh? Are stupid or something?

Are you seriously denying that Moslem isn't a word for Muslim?
http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/MOSLEM
http://www.answers.com/topic/moslem

Go ahead and drop this and save what little dignity you have in this thread.
 
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heather read that iits muslim not MOSLEM
Oh dear.

It's been established that Moslem is a correct spelling, just not favored by Muslims. Let the issue die. It has nothing to do with the original topic.

Now if you're all done arguing about spelling...
 

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So posting news stories makes me a bigot? How would I manage to avoid this label? By completely ignoring incidents like this?

Anyway, you people are still trying to pull the "Christians did bad things too" approach! How does the fact that Christians have committed atrocities too make this story any less of an issue!?. Why should we ignore the barbaric acts of Islamic extremists because "The Christians did to too"!? Could it ever occur to you that they both are inherently violent religions, and they both need to be exposed!?

What a tool.


It just implies that not all Christians are bad as well as Muslims. The picture you paint with the words you use just makes it seem like you think all Muslims are violent.

I have had a Muslim teacher and she was nice and one of my favorite teachers. I sat alongside a Muslim girl who was my coworker for awhile and she never talked about jihad or infidels. She talked about her boyfriend alot. AND I MEAN [email protected]!:eek:
 
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heather read that iits muslim not MOSLEM
What? Do you even possess the capability of reading comprehension? I said it CAN and IS accepted, spelled M-O-S-L-E-M.

Try reading my post again after taking your Ritalin.

EDIT: Furthermore, since you're so adamant that spelling matters, you misspelled, "it's". Call me goofy, but I usually proofread my post before actually sending it out for all to see. It's not so much for the ignorant people around here, but it's a common courtesy for the more educated, who shouldn't be bothered with having to translate.
 
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