New Orleans (Superdome) not as chaotic as thought

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002520986_katmyth26.html

Following days of internationally reported murders, rapes and gang violence inside the stadium, the doctor from FEMA — Beron doesn't remember his name — came prepared for a grisly scene: He brought a refrigerated 18-wheeler and three doctors to process bodies.

"I've got a report of 200 bodies in the Dome," Beron recalled the doctor saying.

The real total?

Six, Beron said.

Of those, four died of natural causes, one overdosed and another jumped to his death in an apparent suicide, said Beron, who personally oversaw the handoff of bodies from a Dome freezer, where they lay atop melting bags of ice.
i'm glad (especially for America's dignity's sake) there wasn't total anarchy in the Superdome
 
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Living_Sin said:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002520986_katmyth26.html



i'm glad (especially for America's dignity's sake) there wasn't total anarchy in the Superdome
Do you really think that the media will report on how absolutly wrong they are?

Projected Dead: 10,000 (20,000 on previous computer models)
Actual Dead: Around 850

Projected time to plug the Levees: 90 days
Actual time: 3 weeks

Projected time needed to drain city: up to nine months
Actual time: about 4 weeks

Projected rebuild cost: 200 Billion
Actual: Undetermined (didn't stop the LA senators from proposing a 250 Billion request :rolleyes: )

Granted all this was before the second storm setback, but still they report like the world is ended. But hey tradegy sells.

(All figures rough estimates based on my memory.)
 

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Very well put Burrito. I remember the front page of the Sun saying 100,000 people dead. But then you read on and it actually stated that 100,000 were either dead/missing/injured. So yeah, it sells. When 911 happened they were saying in upwards of 30,000 people dead, if I remember correctly. Tabloids make me sick sometimes, they use every opertunity to get a story and blow it out of proportion. Even causing wide spread panic.
 
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If this is true (which it looks like it is) it is not just the media's fault. Many first responders are now saying they exagerated things too.
 
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It's not true

PC spinners attempt to radically revise the truth

The controlled media have shown once again their increasing irrelevance and ideological impotence to the American public in actually criticizing themselves for their coverage of the Katrina nightmare. What White America saw, along with the world, was the death of the lie of multiracial America as New Orleans died amidst plundering, murder and rape. So damaging were the events that the media is now attempting to tell us that things “weren’t so bad” after all. To work this clumsy parlor trick they are focusing on a few events, even as the powers-that-be fiddle with figures. Now, we are told, the death toll in the dreaded Superdome stands at “only” ten, and “only” two of those were murder victims. Likewise, cops have not “confirmed” widespread reports of rape in the stadium itself. Similar reports at the nearby convention center scene are also said to be exaggerated. Instead, the media are blaming themselves for reacting without properly checking claims. Despite the fact that the news only relates to the two sites, we are expected to forget what we, and the planet, saw: the looting Blacks, some of whom were cops, the gross federal incompetence, the racial attacks on Whites, and the near-total loss of the city of New Orleans.

There are powerful forces at work to cover up the facts. The Bush regime and its Homeland Security Commissar Michael Chertoff want to downplay the lack of federal response. State and local officials don’t want to admit that their jurisdictions are rife with corruption and amateurishness. And politically-correct ideologues in the media and elsewhere are constitutionally incapable of realizing the fact of Black criminality on such a massive scale. In short, we are undergoing a spin cycle borne out of desperation.

The feds began their spin early on, blaming Louisiana Governor Blanco and local officials for lack of preparation. When questions were raised about manifest federal shortcomings Bush blamed White “racism” while Chertoff engineered the resignation of an underling.

Now local officials will be coming under scrutiny. Originally it was claimed that one-third of the New Orleans police force deserted their posts. Yet now the number slotted to face a review panel amounts to “only” 15% of the city’s police officers. However, federal officials are believed to be investigating the situation on the suspicion that the reason for the discrepancy is that the additional no-shows never existed; they were listed on the books as part of a corrupt skimming operation. When New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass (who claimed to have nearly been taken hostage in the now-suddenly-peaceful Superdome) resigned from his post he gave no indication of his reasons, or explanation of the revised desertion figures.

There was also a half-hearted leftist attempt at spin that went nowhere when it was apparent that the argument was stupid.

The spin is sloppy but nothing better is to be expected out of the bankrupt, corrupt elites in times of serious crisis. The UK government was caught with its pants down in the wake of the 7/7 Muslim tube and bus bombings, when it was found to have just such a spin plan in place before the attacks to attempt to reduce “racial tensions” when the inevitable Muslim outrage occurred. (Even though the system itself expected and planned for just such an event, it had no shame in indicting British National Party leader Nick Griffin for warning about the very same thing). As a result, the first victim named was Jewish, and no photo seemed to appear in the press that did not include a non-White. Pakistani cops were also photo staples in the post-bombing propaganda offensive. Even Her Majesty the Queen appeared next to a Muslim woman in a headscarf on the day of the attacks. And the ongoing PC campaign includes pro-Muslim “services” at government-run churches, cops wearing Muslim battle colors, and police harassment of veterans for flying their nation's flag in their own gardens.

We should expect to see an increase in Katrina-didn't-happen propaganda. We should also know that this is a sign of the system's weakness, not its strength. And, until they manage to shut us down, NationalVanguard.org is here to expose it.
 
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It's not true

PC spinners attempt to radically revise the truth

The controlled media have shown once again their increasing irrelevance and ideological impotence to the American public in actually criticizing themselves for their coverage of the Katrina nightmare. What White America saw, along with the world, was the death of the lie of multiracial America as New Orleans died amidst plundering, murder and rape. So damaging were the events that the media is now attempting to tell us that things “weren’t so bad” after all. To work this clumsy parlor trick they are focusing on a few events, even as the powers-that-be fiddle with figures. Now, we are told, the death toll in the dreaded Superdome stands at “only” ten, and “only” two of those were murder victims. Likewise, cops have not “confirmed” widespread reports of rape in the stadium itself. Similar reports at the nearby convention center scene are also said to be exaggerated. Instead, the media are blaming themselves for reacting without properly checking claims. Despite the fact that the news only relates to the two sites, we are expected to forget what we, and the planet, saw: the looting Blacks, some of whom were cops, the gross federal incompetence, the racial attacks on Whites, and the near-total loss of the city of New Orleans.

There are powerful forces at work to cover up the facts. The Bush regime and its Homeland Security Commissar Michael Chertoff want to downplay the lack of federal response. State and local officials don’t want to admit that their jurisdictions are rife with corruption and amateurishness. And politically-correct ideologues in the media and elsewhere are constitutionally incapable of realizing the fact of Black criminality on such a massive scale. In short, we are undergoing a spin cycle borne out of desperation.

The feds began their spin early on, blaming Louisiana Governor Blanco and local officials for lack of preparation. When questions were raised about manifest federal shortcomings Bush blamed White “racism” while Chertoff engineered the resignation of an underling.

Now local officials will be coming under scrutiny. Originally it was claimed that one-third of the New Orleans police force deserted their posts. Yet now the number slotted to face a review panel amounts to “only” 15% of the city’s police officers. However, federal officials are believed to be investigating the situation on the suspicion that the reason for the discrepancy is that the additional no-shows never existed; they were listed on the books as part of a corrupt skimming operation. When New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass (who claimed to have nearly been taken hostage in the now-suddenly-peaceful Superdome) resigned from his post he gave no indication of his reasons, or explanation of the revised desertion figures.

There was also a half-hearted leftist attempt at spin that went nowhere when it was apparent that the argument was stupid.

The spin is sloppy but nothing better is to be expected out of the bankrupt, corrupt elites in times of serious crisis. The UK government was caught with its pants down in the wake of the 7/7 Muslim tube and bus bombings, when it was found to have just such a spin plan in place before the attacks to attempt to reduce “racial tensions” when the inevitable Muslim outrage occurred. (Even though the system itself expected and planned for just such an event, it had no shame in indicting British National Party leader Nick Griffin for warning about the very same thing). As a result, the first victim named was Jewish, and no photo seemed to appear in the press that did not include a non-White. Pakistani cops were also photo staples in the post-bombing propaganda offensive. Even Her Majesty the Queen appeared next to a Muslim woman in a headscarf on the day of the attacks. And the ongoing PC campaign includes pro-Muslim “services” at government-run churches, cops wearing Muslim battle colors, and police harassment of veterans for flying their nation's flag in their own gardens.

We should expect to see an increase in Katrina-didn't-happen propaganda. We should also know that this is a sign of the system's weakness, not its strength. And, until they manage to shut us down, NationalVanguard.org is here to expose it.
Wow, that was really really well said. Good job. I completly agree. Everything you see in the media about Katrina from now on will be complete bullshit propaganda dished out by your government in order to make you think there doing a top job.
 

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I can definately see the government trying to downplay things, but how can you put out enough spin to make dead bodies go away?
 
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Its funny how the news gets things so incorrect so often. One time a kid at my school was murdered and on the news they showed a picture of a totally different person and said it was him.
 

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Optical said:
It's not true

PC spinners attempt to radically revise the truth

The controlled media have shown once again their increasing irrelevance and ideological impotence to the American public in actually criticizing themselves for their coverage of the Katrina nightmare. What White America saw, along with the world, was the death of the lie of multiracial America as New Orleans died amidst plundering, murder and rape. So damaging were the events that the media is now attempting to tell us that things “weren’t so bad” after all. To work this clumsy parlor trick they are focusing on a few events, even as the powers-that-be fiddle with figures. Now, we are told, the death toll in the dreaded Superdome stands at “only” ten, and “only” two of those were murder victims. Likewise, cops have not “confirmed” widespread reports of rape in the stadium itself. Similar reports at the nearby convention center scene are also said to be exaggerated. Instead, the media are blaming themselves for reacting without properly checking claims. Despite the fact that the news only relates to the two sites, we are expected to forget what we, and the planet, saw: the looting Blacks, some of whom were cops, the gross federal incompetence, the racial attacks on Whites, and the near-total loss of the city of New Orleans.

There are powerful forces at work to cover up the facts. The Bush regime and its Homeland Security Commissar Michael Chertoff want to downplay the lack of federal response. State and local officials don’t want to admit that their jurisdictions are rife with corruption and amateurishness. And politically-correct ideologues in the media and elsewhere are constitutionally incapable of realizing the fact of Black criminality on such a massive scale. In short, we are undergoing a spin cycle borne out of desperation.

The feds began their spin early on, blaming Louisiana Governor Blanco and local officials for lack of preparation. When questions were raised about manifest federal shortcomings Bush blamed White “racism” while Chertoff engineered the resignation of an underling.

Now local officials will be coming under scrutiny. Originally it was claimed that one-third of the New Orleans police force deserted their posts. Yet now the number slotted to face a review panel amounts to “only” 15% of the city’s police officers. However, federal officials are believed to be investigating the situation on the suspicion that the reason for the discrepancy is that the additional no-shows never existed; they were listed on the books as part of a corrupt skimming operation. When New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass (who claimed to have nearly been taken hostage in the now-suddenly-peaceful Superdome) resigned from his post he gave no indication of his reasons, or explanation of the revised desertion figures.

There was also a half-hearted leftist attempt at spin that went nowhere when it was apparent that the argument was stupid.

The spin is sloppy but nothing better is to be expected out of the bankrupt, corrupt elites in times of serious crisis. The UK government was caught with its pants down in the wake of the 7/7 Muslim tube and bus bombings, when it was found to have just such a spin plan in place before the attacks to attempt to reduce “racial tensions” when the inevitable Muslim outrage occurred. (Even though the system itself expected and planned for just such an event, it had no shame in indicting British National Party leader Nick Griffin for warning about the very same thing). As a result, the first victim named was Jewish, and no photo seemed to appear in the press that did not include a non-White. Pakistani cops were also photo staples in the post-bombing propaganda offensive. Even Her Majesty the Queen appeared next to a Muslim woman in a headscarf on the day of the attacks. And the ongoing PC campaign includes pro-Muslim “services” at government-run churches, cops wearing Muslim battle colors, and police harassment of veterans for flying their nation's flag in their own gardens.

We should expect to see an increase in Katrina-didn't-happen propaganda. We should also know that this is a sign of the system's weakness, not its strength. And, until they manage to shut us down, NationalVanguard.org is here to expose it.
so on one hand you're making the claim that media s spining a story so you post some neo-nazi groups website that has no "stake" in telling people the truth.... :rolleyes:

NationalVanguard.org are frucking kidding me? :icon_rofl
 

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Now the media has employed a wookie to do their spinning for them. What has this world come to?
 

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Now the media has employed a wookie to do their spinning for them. What has this world come to?
NationalVanguard.org is like a version of stormfront.org Light. no thanks I'll get my news from another source.
 
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NationalVanguard.org is like a version of stormfront.org Light. no thanks I'll get my news from another source.
National vanguard is an alternative news site, it makes a difference to actually hear the truth don't you think, anyway forget for a minute that the article is from N.V what don't you like about the article, can you discredit any part of it?

That is what you should really be trying to do, rather than just stating who wrote the article, like that is enough to take the truth out of it.
 

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I wonder what angle the article was written from…
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Can't we just cut to the chase and post the recruitment poster for the impending race war? The one that every race, except the caucasians, is secretly planning.
Are the Doc Martins issued or should I bring my own?
 

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I have trouble proving I'm a Canadian I can't imagine going through this process.

Optical said:
That is what you should really be trying to do, rather than just stating who wrote the article, like that is enough to take the truth out of it.
Who wrote the article offers credibility to the article, the agency that sponsors the article also lends credibility to an article. This is NOT an article. Now if you ant me to challenge an article, then post one. It would be like me asking you to dispute this.